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spousal allowance

Posts : 41
Location : N/A
Posted : 9/30/2008 10:00:16 PM  

OK Sue, now that we are all depressed....can we get some more responses to the quiz. Start another thread where those interested can wallow in pity and depression.

Remember, nothing Carilion does should take away our good cheer. Let them be angry and depressed.

 All right, lets see if anyone can beat me in this quiz.

just a minute now

Posts : 6
Location : N/A
Posted : 9/30/2008 10:01:11 PM  

Oh yeah, I need to lighten up. I've seen people die , including some love

ones, close family members.

It's easy for a person like you, one who is afraid of attaching their name

because they want to make sure that if all this does not work out.....they

can still work for Carilion.

You gutless mouthpiece...........wonder if you wear a white sheet at night.

Coward.

Your making light of these most serious healthcare issues proves how much

you care about patient care.

Do you think the girl who lost her mother to suicide in Roanoke Memorial

thinks there is anything to laugh about.?

Do you think childlike posts like these make any difference with Carilion?

You are defeating your own cause.

Once again, grow up.

 

 

sue wade

Posts : 32
Location : N/A
Posted : 9/30/2008 10:05:28 PM  

Just a minute now,

I appreciate your support. But I can fight my own battles.

I agree with what you say, but really.....let me speak for myself.

They were talking to me.

Thanks anyway

sue wade

Posts : 32
Location : N/A
Posted : 9/30/2008 10:23:34 PM  

So...you enjoy " good cheer" while this lady committed suicide in the er?

How any caring person could have " good cheer" with all going on....

I don't understand.

You know, if  doctor's had gonads.........you would  use your real names.

But,. you want to keep the fires burning with Carilion.

You want to make sure you don't burn too many bridges, and hide behind

the names you use...........cause you are afraid to use your own names.

I loathe Carilion , but find this very disgusting.

Ok, you insulted me....the CHO thing.

 

The truth is the truth. He was rushed through the process and seen by

people who were OBVIOUSLY slack in their care and expertise.

Run him thru like McDonalds and 32 innocent people died.

 

Betty

Posts : 4
Location : N/A
Posted : 9/30/2008 11:22:09 PM  

sue wade I told you before - you are either a very mean or a very uninformed person.  But, either way you are a disgusting person to bring the Virginia Tech tragedy into this discussion?

I told you where you could find Cho's mental health history and any treatment he received -

 
I also was convinced you are not interested in even knowing the truth.  I told you before but will tell you again, he was seen by a psychologist and psychiatrist at Carilion St. Albans Psychiatric Hospital on December 14, 2006, 4 months before the tragedy.  Outpatient counseling was recommended.  Carilion had no further contact with Cho.  As recommended by Carilion, Cho reported to Cook Counseling Center after his visit to St. Albans.
 
I have never seen a disgruntled employee before, but you sure fit the description.  I am sure Carilion was glad when you left or maybe they fired you.
 
spousal allowance, I am afraid you and the other negative posters have brought this upon yourselves?  You opened the door and all the flies came in.
 
 
 
Anonymous
Posts : 19
Location : N/A
Posted : 10/2/2008 11:36:07 AM  

I read this already.

Obviously, I did not make myself clear:

He was seen first, ( in the beginning) Alpha,etc, (first, Betty, at Carilion .

I said I wondered if he even saw a psychiatrist at all. 

You sent this report . ( I  read it a long time ago, but was,

as you say,  "uniformed" about him seeing a psychiatrist..)

( Also, I think in making the statement, I wondered, meant I admitted

not knowing.)

So that point is mute.

He did see one.

I believe, if I am not mistaken, and I know you will let me know,

his evaluation took something like 15 minutes.

Is that true, or not?

This obviously , was his first visit, so I am lead to believe he must have

been a " new" patient in that setting.

I would love to know what cpt codes were used in billing for his

services. Are you able to provide that information Betty?

The bottom line remains:

The two providers were unable to detect his illness.

In the world of physical medicine , it would be much the same as

as a doctor missing a tumor. ( Or, two doctors missing a tumor).

Either way, I still maintain I believe he was either 1. rushed through

by the process, or 2. seen by providers who offer the same QUALITY

of care as the lady at RMH, and 3. that Carilion's services and level

of care are "money driven", , broken out by payer type

 

In additon, I believe a hospital, Carilion or not, should be responsible and

accountable for physicians providing services in their facility, whether they

the doctors are Carilion employees, ( bought out, owned,), or not.

 

The providers who origionally saw him did not bother to follow up, if I

am understanding this correctly.

I KNOW there are a lot of people affected by this, me, my friends who

work at Tech, ( I 've both attended and worked for Tech as well),

and my friends and relatives who were there on campus that day,

and the entire community...

You attack me personally because you feel this incident should be

squelched and not mentioned on this forum.

You may have a persoal connection or whatever, whatever the reason I

am sorry to upset you, it's not my intention.

Having said that, look at the incidents, ( other than this one):

1.Josh Brown, Nrv, Came  from a hospital to St. Albans's.

Obviously, not searched, and killed himself when he went to the bathroom.

( A deputy had to eat that one, although the patient was released from

one medical facility and taken to St. Alban's and then shot himself in the

bathroom.

2. The incident at RMH in which he patient escaped and drown in the

river .

3. The lady at RMH who hanged herself.

4. There was talk of two incidents, one involving a male patient, no

further clarification on that.

5. And, I know of one person , a person I worked with, not at the

same facility, who was fired by Carilion after having worked for them

for many years and who committed suicide some months later.

As for you calling me disgusting because I am upset by all of these

things....ok.......I surely am DISGUSTED.

And, what does " Citizen's Coalition for responsible healthcare" mean.

Is this not a forum created to discuss responsible heathcare?

On the subject of being disgusting, if you find my Truthful accounts

in which I voice my concerns based on my experiences etc, I must

have stepped on some toes.

Not my intention.

As for the way I became a horrible, disgusting  person.......I've seen

too many people die since Carilion came to town. I've seen employees

whose lives and careers have been ruined because they refused to suck

up and go along with treating patients based on their insurance carrier.

I've seen too much Betty.

 

The worst of all frankly, was the loss of my Dad, a little over a year ago.

He died of pancreatic cancer. He was misdiagnosed by uncaring and

unqualified quacks at both Carilion New River Medical Center and

Carilion Roanoke Memorial . He had two bx's Betty, still was misdiagnosed

and was told he had NO cancer.

He continually degressed , was being treated for the wrong illnesses,

and obstructed. We took him to a non-Carilion hospital where he

received surgery and was correctly diagnosed with Adenocarcinma

of the pancreas. By that time, it was too late,his abdomen was full.

We took him home, he passed the next day.

 

If I were talking to you personally, and not on this forum, I would share

with you the horrible , unbelievable, experiences we endured in his

"CARE"

more later, too upset..............

 

 

 

 

 

 

sue wade

Posts : 32
Location : N/A
Posted : 10/2/2008 11:39:18 AM  

This is my post. ( Must have timed out or something)

Sue Wade

Reasonable

Posts : 10
Location : N/A
Posted : 10/2/2008 4:35:39 PM  
Now this is the kind of togetherness I love to see....Spousal, I don't need your money, I make enough of my own at Carilion. :)
just a minute now

Posts : 6
Location : N/A
Posted : 10/2/2008 6:23:45 PM  

Reasonable,

The fact you can read these posts about people dying and all the pain

and suffering people have gone through because of Carilion's poor

quality of care, and then make this comment proves you are working

for the right people.

 

 

 

 

 

Betty

Posts : 4
Location : N/A
Posted : 10/3/2008 12:43:05 AM  

Personally, I am tired of reading all the personal attacks and uninformed stuff (toned down word) on this forum.  Carilion and Carilion personnel are being attacked and accused of horrendous things on this site without any means of defending themselves.  They can’t defend themselves because, one, there are few specifics and. two, patient privacy would prevent them from doing so.  So, everyone you just keep on spewing bile.

NOW, before I go any further, bad things happen in hospitals, Carilion included, but there are a number of hard working, dedicated employees trying to make sure bad things don’t happen.  I want to also point out, I am sorry those bad things have happened and many of you have my deepest sympathy. 

As far as I can see Carilion is trying to improve upon care and posters are bashing those efforts just so a few doctor’s pocketbooks won’t get hurt.  Well I don’t give a darn (another toned down word) about your pocketbooks, I want good coordinated medical care with doctors talking to each other so each knows what the other is doing.  Now that is RESPONSIBLE HEALTHCARE!

I object to sue wade’s trying to blame Carilion for something they had NOTHING to do with other than seeing CHO 4 months before the VT tragedy.  The first time was bad enough but to repeat it after being given the facts!  Carilion done exactly what they should have done – referred Cho for counseling.  There would have been no reason for follow up – he had been referred for treatment.  Now in 20/20 hindsight it is easy to say more should have been done.  But I don’t see what more Carilion could have done.  It is easy to say you were “just wondering” – bull, you were insinuating, if you didn’t know you could have said you didn’t know, or you could have read the report.  Yes, many people were unable to detect his illness – mental illness is like that, and not like missing a tumor (clearly visible).  So your statements are all wrong about being rushed through, or insinuating the same care as the lady that committed suicide, or that Carilion’s motives were money driven.  No I don’t think this incident should be squelched and it sure hasn’t.  There was a Governor’s task force and any number of local and national media that covered this tragedy.  I am sure if there was blame they would have placed it.  Your mean motive to trash your former employer is showing.  By the way, hospitals and employees are accountable – if you have a complaint there are any number of regulatory bodies with which to file your complaints.

I am sorry Josh Brown killed himself, a patient escaped and drowned, a lady committed suicide, possibly some other “male patient” committed suicide (your #4), and a fellow Carilion employee committed suicide.  Each and every family member and friend has my sympathy.  Bad things happen and I hope every hospital and healthcare provider learned from these incidents.  I don’t want to seem hard and unsympathetic but mentally disturbed people can and will commit suicide and it is difficult to determine those that will.

Finally, I am sorry for the loss of your father – I can’t say anything else but I am deeply sorry.  Your story is not the only misdiagnosis story in the area and that includes many doctors and hospitals, not just Carilion.  Believe me, I understand and sympathize.

I understand you have seen too much and it is probably good you have left the profession.  Good luck to you in whatever you do in the future.  Please don’t let your bad experiences cloud the rest of your life.

 

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